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Apprentice |
I just switched to Daylite from a self built on system of Filemaker Pro.
I need to import the clients, then determine where I am now going to do the business billing. Any recomendations as to a good business intregratede to DL billing software? Any prebuilts in FMP or another? Has DL made a billing input yet? Thanks Erik |
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Pro |
I don't know of any plug-ins that integrate DayLite with any of the billing/accounting packages out there yet. There might be one in the works, but I have not heard of it.
However, I can see how you could possibly use the "Estimate" capability of DayLite and Tasks as a simple billing system. The question is how deep are your billing needs? *********************************** Macsimum News |
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Wise Guy |
I use DL to manage my clients and orders. For billing I stick with an accounting backage (MYOB).
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Marketcircle Team |
DAYLITE USAGE IN THE PHOTOGRAPHY INDUSTRY (A GUESS)
These settings could be used by a photographer. I'm making a bunch of assumptions as I'm not a photographer by any means. I just happened to go a few wedding this summer, observed the photographers in action and remembered my own wedding. What I'm hoping to do here is get some feedback from the pros and see if we can make a good template for photographers in general. These settings assume a photographer in the wedding business. I have no clue how a photographer that photographs models or objects works or one that does corporate work. I think might require just a few changes. CATEGORY/KEYWORDS/TYPE Contact Categories
Organization Categories
Keywords
Appointment Categories
Task Categories
Project Categories
Note Categories
Opportunity Type
ROLES When you link people to your opportunities or projects, you want to know the relationship so to speak and who they are. The contact themselves would have their own category. The 'Bride' would have a 'Client' category and the 'Bride Mother' would have a 'Client-Relative' category. Hopefully the 'Bride Mother' becomes a 'Client' in the future. It is important to keep these separate because a contact with category 'Client' may have many 'jobs' with you. Each one of those is an opportunity or a project and she could play a different role in each. Contact - Opportunity/Project Roles
FORMS Use forms to gather bits of useful information. While Daylite is not an accounting system, you can at least log the payments received. For every album ordered, you can specify the details as well as for frames. I'm sure there are other uses, but I can't think of any right now. Payment Received
Album Details
Frame Details
PIPELINE AND STAGES This is where you manage your day to day business (along with the calendar). It is debatable whether you'd want a shorter opportunity pipeline and then more project pipelines. We are fudging pure Daylite theory here by going beyond the 'accepted' stage in opportunity and managing the whole process this way. The process is that the opportunity is the driving element and that project stem of of it. For example, since each ordered album is quite a bit of work, you can make each ordered album a separate project. You would use the 'create project from opportunity' menu. You might keep all the same people linked or a have a subset (which would make more sense). Theoretically, the events (such as the reception) could also be a project, but I think that is going too fine grained and thus hard to maintain - but that is personal preference. Opportunity - Event Pipeline (wedding, family picts, head shots, bar/bat ...)
Project - Album Assembly Pipeline
Project - Frame Assembly Pipeline
ACTIVITY SETS I could only think of one forward activity set and one reverse. Forward - Prints
Reverse - External Event Preparations
SMARTLISTS The following smartlist would ease your access to specific data. When you go multi-user, you could create the similar smartlist but with the user as an additional criteria. Off-course you could add a whole bunch more smartlists. Contacts
Organizations
Opportunities
Projects
Tasks
Calendar
Hope this helps someone and hopefully we can get some feedback on this. |
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Pro |
While I am not a photographer, I must say that you did a great job in providing a lot of well thought out detail.
Wouldn't it be great if we can package up all those recommendations into a nice little "Template" file that could be installed on top of an already created database. Then, as we develop a library of "Best Practice" templates, they could be easily shared from the Marketcircle site. *********************************** Macsimum News |
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Wise Guy |
AJ... very impressed with the thought and effort put into this. I don't have time right now, but I'll look at it closer and make some suggestions. I've got a pretty good form created for tracking details of the wedding and a report that prints this out that I take with me on the wedding day to refresh my memory.
Although weddings are not a big part of my work, they used to be. I now do mostly commercial & corporate work, so I've had to create different workflows for different types of photography. You are correct in that a 'template' for wedding photographers isn't necessarily the answer for other photographers. |
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Wise Guy |
All these Smart Lists are valid. I have Smart Lists created for things like; Orders At Lab, Proofs out for Review, Weddings this Month (not many photographers book multiple weddings per week and if they did, then a weekly list may be valid), Weddings this year (to quickly see if you're booked for a certain date on an inquiry). This message has been edited. Last edited by: Mike Guilbault, |
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Wise Guy |
AJ.. I think you're on to something here but you do need some 'insight' into the business. It's not like any other. I can see 'modules' being created for different photography fields like wedding, commercial, corporate, etc. I'd love to work more on something like this.
You should buy me lunch so we can discuss it! I'm only 45 min up the road!! |
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Marketcircle Team |
Sounds like a plan. I'm a little swamped right now so my time is sketchy. I should be in better shape in two weeks. We'll do something then.
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Wise Guy |
sounds great AJ. Let me know whenever.
Cheers |
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Apprentice |
Hi Mike, AJ and Eric
I am a wedding photographer so I might be able to help in some of the ways I use Daylite. AJ did a pretty good job of outlining some possible uses. One thing I find critical is to have the main catagories split out into years at the catagory stage. I shoot 80+ weddings a year, and after 15 years it gets tough keeping them seperate. I've been using Daylite for 4+ years now so let me know if you need more help. Cheers Karen Sayre Eikon Photography www.eikonphoto.com |
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Pro |
I think that what would be most helpful would be for these "best practices" to be built into a DayLite database than can be used as a template - and not just for photographers. These blank databases could be shared via Marketcircle's servers.
It might even be very useful, for the community, if Marketcircle would actually host a live database with selected users from the respective fields allowed to actually modify it. These "experts" would create everything from letter templates to activity sets. The MC folks would periodically take "snapshots" of the live database and post it as the current template. If there are enough experts, then we could even get multiple templates based on various criteria. For example, some lawyers might create various templates for different types of practices or states. Photographers might have different templates based on wedding/event work or commercial work. Sales folks might have industry specific templates or templates based on different selling systems. This would be sort of an open source type repository. *********************************** Macsimum News |
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Apprentice |
Hello
I am a commercial photographer and have just started evaluating DayLite. It looks like it has an enormous amount of potential to manage my business. I would love to see industry specific templates as well. We run a small studio with three photographers currently. Areas of specialty include commercial work (ad agencies, designers),stock photography (self assigned spec work) as well as some corporate video work. We want to share a database for marketing purposes as well as a shared calendar for studio bookings. We're somewhat separate entities but share space and resources. Is this something that Daylite would be able to handle? Cheers Grant waddell |
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Wise Guy |
Grant... welcome!
You may want to start a new post with this question as this thread has been dormant for a few weeks. I'm a one man show so can't comment about the shared database and such, but it's definately a great tool for marketing. I think the difficult part would be working out what needs to be shared and what needs to stay private. Others that have worked with multiple users should be able to answer your question better than I. |
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Apprentice |
Hi Grant
I also run a commercial photography company in the same line of work as yourself. We currently have 6 users accessing Daylite on a network. We wanted a solution that allowed us to share contact information and a shared calendar allowing us to book work into a group diary. I find it works extremely well. The mail integration is invaluable. We often are sent briefs as pdf's via email. We create a project for each job and attach the assoc emails to them. This allows any of the photographers to pick up this job and see all communication that has taken place with the client eg. quotes, visuals, etc. The project is then linked to the job booked into the calendar (Appointment). Drop me an email if you want to know any specifics.. Neil |
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