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Apprentice
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Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I can't figure out how to round time in Billings 3. Previously, you would uncheck completed slips in the main interface (a royal pain, BTW), and could then round the time. Now, I can't figure out how to uncheck the slips or how to round time otherwise. Is there now some batch rounding feature I'm missing?
 
Posts: 7 | Registered: October 04, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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It works like before. The check/uncheck is now the done button beside the name of the working slip. As long as the slip hasn't been marked completed (which you can undo by double-clicking the slip and unchecking the completed check box) you can right click the slip, and choose the round time option.
 
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I'm sorry, but that's just nuts. That means that a process that was already too cumbersome by far has become even more so. If you create slips using the timer, as I do 95% of the time, you complete and link the slips to a project from the timer window. If I understand your reply, to round time now we need to reopen every slip individually, uncheck the completed box, rightclick the slip and select round time, and then click the "done" button. Is that correct?

PLEASE give us a way to automatically round all entries, or at least a way to round a batch of slips at a time.
 
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No there is a couple pretty easy ways to do this even from the timers window.

If you link the slips to a project before punching out you could choose a batch of slips to round time on in the main window before marking them as complete.

Alternatively you can round directly in the timers window by right clicking. After that you could punch out/mark complete.
 
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Right-clicking the slip in the timers window works for my workflow, thanks. Didn't know you could do that before. Still, it's one more step necessary before finalizing each slip. Can we please set up a preference that just automatically rounds all slips without manual intervention?

Your other suggestion is less efficient, at least the way I use the timer window. With an unlinked slip, clicking the check box automatically prompts the linking dialog; you link and close in one step. (Now I have to round time and then link and close - two steps). As I understand your suggestion, closing a slip would involve several additional steps: link all open slips to projects, open the main window to show all active slips, select them, round the time, then click them "done."

What I think you guys have to understand is that small efficiencies or their absence color the user experience of a program like this disproportionately. When the user has to remove attention from his or her primary work and focus on completing a timeslip it's already a nuisance. If they come across the same frustration a dozen times a day it just gets under the skin. From previous Marketcircle forum responses I have not detected an understanding of that dynamic. I will say, Kevin, that there appears to be a big change in the company's sensitivity to these concerns since the Billings 3 release.
 
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I would like to echo Alan's comment about how cumbersome it is to do this after "completing" a slip. Thanks for airing your concern, Alan, and thanks for your clear response, Kevin. For now, I will alter my work flow to work the way Billings is programmed to work.
 
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i might be wrong, but in billings 2 you could complete / uncomplete slips directly in the list without opening the slip .. i think that was a better way . what's more i'd like to see invoiced slips too, because i use my former projects as reference for future projects (to guess how long things might take)
 
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You could use estimates in order to approximate how long things will take and you could use Blueprint slips in order to create a template for a slip you use over and over again.
 
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Originally posted by Kevin Hiscott:
You could use estimates in order to approximate how long things will take and you could use Blueprint slips in order to create a template for a slip you use over and over again.


but when i just want to look in former projects, how long certain slips lasted? i need no estimate, just want to look back easily. like, oh the last time it took 5 hours so this time ... after that i'd estimate

how about another button next to estimate slips, working slips ... billed slips?

and at least a shortcut for un-completing slips, better the old checkbox
 
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You can view invoiced slips in the All Slips view, through search or you can right click an Invoice and choose "View Invoice Details" which then has a slips tab.
 
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