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Originally posted by Scott Wolfe:
Hey - I have a question about the way this thing works...and not because of the DayliteTouch App (per se).

I love Daylite, and my law firm uses it. However, as we grow we are running into a huge problem. We have offices in Seattle & New Orleans, and the "Online/Offline Sync" options, as well as the "Work Online" features are coming close to "not cutting it."

So, if Daylite is introducing some type of "server" sync with the Daylite Touch....

Will it also work to sync between machines...say in two offices? To eliminate this offline/online sync that seems to get messy at times??

Daylite Touch Server is specifically for Daylite Touch on the device. There are many things it has to do differently than both Sync Services and Offline Sync.

We may have a resolution for your offline sync issues. I assume you are working with one of our partners - if so, have them contact us in this regard.
If you are not working with a partner, then contact Amin and refer to this post.

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Originally posted by maxscience:
Hello Micheal,

Will Daylite touch and Daylite touch server provide PUSH data to the iPhone?

As noted in the blog post - we will offer Over The Air Synchronization (OTA). We cannot do push because no background processes are allowed on the phone (save Apple's own processes).

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Also can you please give me some more clarifications about sync?

Sync Services will continue to be and it will continue to improve (we are waiting on some fixes from Apple).
Daylite Touch uses a new sync mechanism that we have developed from the ground up - We leveraged our experience from the old Palm Sync, Address Book Sync, Sync Services, and Offline Sync to make this new system.

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Scenario 1:

Several macs use Daylite for contacts and calendars and they DO NOT use Address Book.app or iCal nor they use Sync Services.
The iPhone 3G with Daylite touch on it will be able to use the daylite database as its address book database?
In this scenario the iPhone user will have to use Daylite touch instead of the Calendar and Contacts bundled iphone apps? As you know this is a crucial thing for example in the phone application.

Essentially yes. You will be able to dial from contact records in Touch. We will not populate the native Address Book at this time. There are limitations that we cannot really work around at this time (and we cannot talk about because the NDA is still in effect from Apple).
The same is true for the calendar.

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Scenario 2:

Like scenario 1 but users need to access information on the web so they want to use mobileme, on the mac they need to use Sync Services I guess? The iphone users will get contacts and calendars pushed via mobile me and use Daylite touch at the same time.
As I suggested some time ago the ideal thing here would be for Marketcircle to develop a web frontend for daylite because when you punt Sync Services in the reliability of your data drops tremendously, custom fields lost, etc. as you know.

You can continue to use Sync Services, so you can will be able to get contacts/appointments to MobileMe that way. We have not tested this yet as MobileMe just came out, but it should work.

Some things are still in flux, so what's I've said here can change when we ship.

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Originally posted by AJ:

You can continue to use Sync Services, so you can will be able to get contacts/appointments to MobileMe that way. We have not tested this yet as MobileMe just came out, but it should work.

I'm dying to upgrade my iPhone to 2.0, but I'm concerned that I'll lose the syncing that I get now with DL -- calendar and contact. I had endless sync hassles with my Treo and DL. Is it currently safe to upgrade to iPhone 2.0? That is, can we still get the DL hardwire sync that we get with iPhone 1.x?

If anyone has upgraded to 2.0, what was your sync experience?

Also, looking forward to DL Touch!

So...
1)Daylite Touch syncs daylite to an iPhone version of Daylite.
And
2) Sync Services simultaneously syncs the AB/iCal to iPhone's own AB/iCal ?

Or does Daylite Touch now handle the local syncing of iPhone's local AB & iCal for use by other local iPHone apps?

Tony

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Originally posted by AJ:

Even though Daylite Touch does not have all the features of Daylite (as expected), it gives you a new level of freedom & mobility while still moving business, projects and things forward.

Yes to 1
Yes to 2
No to 3.

We don't see people needing to do both 1 and 2 at the same time. You would probably choose to do 1 or 2. You will have much richer data on your phone with 1. You will have what you have now with 2.

> We don't see people needing to do both 1 and 2 at the same time

Well, 1 has richer data.

But don't most other iPhone apps (Apple & 3rd Party) use 2 data?

I've seen mention here of apps maybe accessing Daylite 1 data directly, but don't know how that might work, esp with non-apple apps.

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Originally posted by dubster:
jeeze David H - can you please let the Marketcircle team get on with the job and stop harassing them.

What's wrong with a little cheerleading? This is a discussion forum- it's not like I'm calling Market Circle on the phone over and over again. I'm not saying that OmniFocus is equivalent to DL, just that the other players are starting to surface, so I hope MC has some sort of press-release soon so we can plan for when DL Touch will appear and how much it will cost. Believe me, I'm looking forward to it, which is why I'm anxious for more details...

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Originally posted by AJ:
As noted in the blog post - we will offer Over The Air Synchronization (OTA). We cannot do push because no background processes are allowed on the phone (save Apple's own processes).

Ok, but around the same time you plan on releasing this app, Apple's notification service for iPhone will be up and running. Surely you can integrate this into Daylite Touch?

I'm a prospective buyer, but issues like integration to other apps and synchronization is why I have put off making the purchase. I'm happy to see an iPhone app being developed. I'm still not sure about the usefulness of Billings and not having a true GTD module.

PS If any of the consultants would like to talk to me about how I could integrate Daylite's suite into my workflow, I'd love to hear from you.

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Originally posted by Josh A:
Ok, but around the same time you plan on releasing this app, Apple's notification service for iPhone will be up and running. Surely you can integrate this into Daylite Touch?

That system is just a notification service with a very small payload size - it is not a push mechanism by any means. No one has access to this service and until we have access we don't really know how it will work and what not. The only thing we know is what I've said above.

Daylite is Great. And carrying its strength on my pocket will be definitely a must. You do a great job, guys. Cheers.

Question: Will the iPhone app will display contact info like the desktop app? I mean with the linked organisation's information? How about activity?

Question - I know you can not sync notes with Apple Notes. Yet, are you planning to allow notes to sync with the Iphone? It seems to be an easy add - just a simple sync. Just curious

David4GTD

FM Touch is now on the market. Any tentative release date for Daylite Touch?

Hi

one or two topics did touch my question but so far I did not see any answer or solution to it. My set-up is as follows:

iMac with daylite as server

Mcbookpro with Daylite offline database (sync between offline and online database (on iMac) once I am back in the office - I heard that syncing over the internet may mess up everything in case the connection is not fast or stable enough)

Powerbook in office which uses the server database on the iMac.

iPhone 2.0

MobileMe

I have the sync service turned on on the iMac online database and it works perfectly with the Apple MobileMe sync. If I alter/add/delete any contact or calendar entry it will be automatically OTA synced (pushed and fetched) between the iPhone and the online database on the iMac. No task as yet as we know but I could live with it.

My question is the following:
How to integrate the Macbookpro into the above syncing when I am travelling??? Follwing scenario: I am planning a trip and place all data into my online database on the iMac - it will be pushed to the iphone and before I leave the office I update the offline database on the Macbookpro.
During the trip I have to change the travel data and appointments and do that on my iphone - all changed will be pushed back to the online database on the iMac (and by doing so to the Powerbook) but my Macbookpro is left out and not updated until I am back in the office and update the offline database. Any update I do on the Macbookpro will stay there until I update the offline database and the office can only see any of my amendments when I use the iphone to change appointments and contacts.

I have daylite sync turned off on the Macbookpro although I do an Applesync via MobileMe which updates the ical and address application. What happens when I switch on Daylite sync for the offline database? Theoretically I would get all amendments to contacts, calendars and mail to the Macbookpro the moment I am connected to the Internet. But I am afraid that this process would cause serious problems and duplicates once I am back in the office and update the offline database with the online database on the iMac.

In short words, I find it disappointing that I can get an (almost) instant sync of calendar and contacts between the online database in the office on the iMac and my iPhone but the Macbookpro is left out and outdated while travelling.

Thanks for a solution guys.

Have a nice day

Ciao

Ralf

I am a huge fan of Daylite - still not a perfect GTD app but the closest thing out there. The issues I have questions about comes around changes in hwo it will sync with Daylite Touch. It seems to be getting complicated with Iphone, wireless Sync, Hard Sync etc.

I have a question about Syncing Daylite with Iphone. I love the concept of MobileMe - to be able to change something on the iphone and have it changed on my computer when I boot up - it is truly an opportunity to have an exchange server as an individual.

Yet, I see that Daylite will sync wirelessly as well - I assume contacts, calendar, tasks and memos? Should I wait to get MobileMe to see how this will all work together or are you taking into consideration the MobileMe part of the equation.

I also sync my Ical with Google so that my cients can see my availability. It has worked well to use the Daylite Calendar because sync is immediate and BusySync then syncs automatically with Google. I want to keep doing this as well.

Anyway I my questions are:
Will I need MobileMe with DayliteTouch or is there a purpose to have both services?

If you have both will it work or cause complications?

With Daylite Touch when I change something in my Iphone - say a calendar or contact item - will it sync with my Ical and address book on my Iphone so that those programs are aligned?

Let me know - Thanks
David

Is Daylite Touch delayed?

I just went on your Daylitetouch.com page and the button at the bottom now says "early 2009".

I'm quite eager to get all of my employees up and running on iphones, but in order to get their calendars and contacts onto it, it currently requires a mobile me account with a dedicated computer constantly syncing to the database. I'm not too keen on this as I would have to have 5 computers running all the time and the syncing requires a lot of maintenance and troubleshooting.

If Daylitetouch is really delayed into 2009 I would like to see if there others out there that have found a solution to sync calendars and contacts from the Daylite database to the iphone or a web calendar. Any thoughts?