Hello all,

If there is a way to close the window without logging out of the database, I haven't found it. As a designer, I'd like to have my dock as uncluttered as possible, but it appears that Daylite wants to have the window minimized, and does not allow me to close it.

Is there a way to close the window without logging out of the database?

Thanks!

Does Daylite > Hide Daylite (Apple-H) not serve your purpose?

That is the solution I've been looking for! Thanks for the response!

I still would like to see Daylite working like most other Mac apps where you could close the window (but not quit the application or log out of a database) via the red (x) bubble at the upper left of the window. There are tons of applications that work this way: Safari, Finder, Mail, FireFox, MacJournal, Keynote, Pages, iTunes, QuickTime, Preview, Photoshop…
I know that you could theoretically open multiple database windows and in this case it couldmake sense to use this button to logout instead of hiding the window. But even Marketcircle does not recommend using multiple databases which leads to a unsatisfying situation. A option that is barely used by anyone (log out) has a highly popular interface element (the red bubble) and a option that is used (at least by me) multiple times per day (hiding the window) doesn’t have a interface element at all.

So my wish continues to exist: change (or at least make it a option) to use he red bubble to hide the window.

Please

A happy new year.

Add me to the list of people who would love to see this change

Martin

I think Andy's point satisfies the original poster, but I don't know I've understood your point properly.

Using the red button to hide the window would *break* Apple's GUI conventions -- the red button is "close window" whatever app you are using. The red button does not quit DL, so it works the same as Safari, Finder, Mail and all the other apps you mentioned. Your suggestion would make Daylite work *differently* from most other Mac apps.

It seems to me that DL works the same as other apps that control connections: Terminal, Fetch etc, especially those that require authentication. If you close a connection window, you close the connection.

I can't think of any applications that have an interface button for "Hide application", but cmd-H is a largely consistent keyboard shortcut throughout the MacOS world (and the menu option is always available).

Nick

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Using the red button to hide the window would *break* Apple's GUI conventions -- the red button is "close window" whatever app you are using. The red button does not quit DL, so it works the same as Safari, Finder, Mail and all the other apps you mentioned.

Your comment is correct for Safari and Finder but not the main window of Mail.

There are two approaches how the close button could work as there are (at least) two ways of how you could work with data. One way works with multiple documents, the other way with a single document or database.

Applications as Safari, Pages, TextEdit or Preview open a single document (a web page, a text document) within a single viewer, a window. If you close this window, the document will be closed. The application itself should stay open. There are apps that don’t work with documents at all (Calculator) so if you close their window via the red bubble, the whole application will be closed.
However, there are application that work with a single file or a single set of files (sometimes called database or library). If you press the red bubble here, the database viewer (the window) will be closed but not the database or the connection to the database itself. So from a user’s point of view the close button does exactly the same as if you hide the window. Apple itself delivers some of those apps, namely iTunes, iPhoto, Address Book and iCal. You won’t notice a difference here, if you press the red button (which closes/hides the window) and pressing the dock icon afterwards (which re-opens or unhides the window) or using Command+H and the dock icon afterwards. The main viewer of Mail works the same, single mail windows behave differently like they are single files with a single window (which is correct here). Other media players (VLC, MPlayer), tools (Transmission), note taking apps (MacJournal), address- or calendar tools (even-t 2, Contactizer) and probably many other tools work the same way.
The problematic thing with Daylite is, that you could theoretically open multiple databases at once and therefore the “one viewer per one document” approach, where the close button logs you out of the database would be the right one. But even Marketcircle does not recommend this ”Avoid creating multiple databases: use a single database for all your needs. Note: Databases cannot be merged at a later date.” (page 13 of the Daylite 3 manual) and probably the great majority of the people only use a single database so that Daylite behaves for them as a “single file/single set of files/database/library“ application like iCal, Mail, Address Book or the other calendar/contact manager/mail… applications.
For me (and I may be the only one on earth) Daylite is the only application (of over 200 I use) where I have to use Command+H to hide the window, so Daylite is the one that works *differently* on my Mac and I would be happy if I could change that (even via a hidden option).