AJ et al,

Are there any plans to make DL Spotlight-searchable? Other OpenBase applications (StickyBrain, SOHONotes) can do it. I remember someone saying at one point that the multi-user environment made it a thorny issue. However the other apps manage to do it. This is quite seriously one of my major hurdles to committing all my data - notes in particular - to Daylite.

What do the technicians have to say about this.

STeve J

I agree - this would be a major benefit in DayLite.

// Jörgen

I"m curious, what would spotlight offer that Global Find can't do?

Or QuickFind, for that matter?

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Originally posted by Howard:
Or QuickFind, for that matter?

QuickFind doesn't find any content in notes.

Global Find would be sufficient.

I'd think publishing the full text of all notes as a Spotlight MDImporter would be a lot of work, for perhaps not a lot of gain except to a few people.

Seems to me that the Global Find only searches on Contacts and Organisations. My concern has been to put tons of data into the DL notes and Tasks and not be able to access it via Spotlight.

Steve J

No, actually Global Find searches everywhere if you want it to. There are checkboxes for all the Daylite objects and it certainly searches notes. Just be sure the boxes are checked. Why not give it a whirl so you can see it in action?

Sorry, What I meant to say was that the Global Find was only available within DayLite - once the app was up and running. And yes, I realise you can search for the contents of Notes/Task, etc in this manner.

However I do a lot of work outside DL and want to have a single search engine - notes within DL, old notes in E2004, my pdfs in Finder etc. Don't want to have to open the DL application to check whether that Note I wrote about X Y or Z was stored in DL or not. For the moment I hesitate to commit too much data to the Notes section of DL for this reason.

The other applications using OpenBase are Spotlight-able - why not DL?

Steve J

Because it's necessary to write a Spotlight MDImpporter for Daylite. The fact that other OpenBase applications are searchable is irrelevant -- the work must be done by MarketCircle.

And it's not necessarily trivial -- personally I'd rather they get Sync Services working so I can do MeetingMaker <--> iCal <--> Daylite syncing before they work on a Spotlight MD Importer

Yes, thoroughly agree that would prefer the Sync Services chapter to appear first. Not being a technically-minded user, hadn't a clue if it was easy/hard to do the Spotlight importer. Just couldn't get feedback on the subject from the DL folk. Steve J

while at first thought the thought of a Spotlight plugin for Daylite objects would be awesome, thinking further beyond the search it might get more complicated. i could be totally off the mark on this but i believe that the data inside a Daylite database cannot be accessed without Daylite running, DMI is a good example. and the fact that in order to get to that data you first need to log in to a specific dbase as a specific user could make it tough as well. again, just a guess.

Theodore, I think that you are incorrect regarding the necessity of DayLite running for Spotlight to search the OpenBase stores. However, it might take a few changes of the OpenBase preferences to enable the OB engine to be up and running even when DayLite is not and to have the DayLite databases be open.

Once that is done, a Spotlight Importer should work fine. And while I'll not enter a preference of Spotlight over Sync Services, I know that both would be heavily used and desirable.

For the people questioning the benefits of Spotlight over just using the Global/Quick Find utilities within Spotlight, this issue is isolation versus integration. If DayLite data is all to itself, then it is not participating with with rest of the available services and being a part of the total Macintosh experience and productivity. With Spotlight enabled, I can be far more effective in finding anything in my little world. Otherwise, I have to search two places.

Thanks for the feedback. We'll discuss this as a team when the engineers get back from WWDC.

About global find vs. spotlight:
I have seen clients keep contact info for people in multiple places: Address Book, Entourage, DL, etc. so having DL accessible with spotlight would be an advantage.

Say you are trying to find someone's number quickly, just type the name into spotlight to get a result no matter which program it was entered into.

I FULLY AGREE.

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Originally posted by clint:
About global find vs. spotlight:
I have seen clients keep contact info for people in multiple places: Address Book, Entourage, DL, etc. so having DL accessible with spotlight would be an advantage.

Say you are trying to find someone's number quickly, just type the name into spotlight to get a result no matter which program it was entered into.